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Post by Kyron on Jul 4, 2016 10:59:47 GMT
On Four Corners at the moment they are talking about jobs of the future. They say schools kids need to learn coding because it will be an essential skill. So why are there thousands of highly skills software developers driving taxis because they can't get a job?
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Post by Kyron on Jul 4, 2016 11:06:14 GMT
"skilled" this doesn't seem to let you edit a post.
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Post by Iain Dooley on Jul 5, 2016 7:21:26 GMT
Yeah I went through and did like 40 tweet replies on #4corners last night  The problem of course is that we need to create jobs to go along with the skills. The line I like to reply to this with is "we can't train our way to full employment". Also the private sector are very picky about who they will hire. If we're importing people to do work, it's only fair the government should provide them with a job to get them acclimated to how things work in Australia and give them some solid experience and track record, rather than just saying to the private sector "here are 100,000 IT graduates from India, put them to work". Now you have Australian employers complaining about "lack of people" and "lack of skills" and "need for more STEM education" but as you say, programmers driving cabs. If those programmers were given jobs in the government writing code, they would get the chance to improve their English, they would get experience in real world applications working in an Australian workplace, and they would get access to personal networks that would improve their job prospects. The government would also be able to get a whole bunch of IT projects done. Win, win, win. |
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Post by Kyron on Jul 5, 2016 10:25:22 GMT
The problem is many IT workers over 45 can't get a job because employers (who have HR people in their 20s) think they're too old. They have been working in the Australian work place for many years. And not just driving taxis. I've talked to middle age women doing food demos in supermarkets who are highly experienced IT worker telling me they can't get a job in IT anymore. Age discrimination is a form of market failure. The Job Guarantee would be a perfect way to update their skills on some government IT projects and prove their capability.
I think skilled people in Job Guarantee should get more than the minimum wage. Maybe half way between a minimum wage and average wage for their level of skill.
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Post by lojac on Jul 5, 2016 13:18:30 GMT
its great having skilled workers..but just look at what they did to the unskilled jobs..you need a cert 4 just to serve beer and not just one you need several ....not I am not saying that people should not get training but it is ridiculous on how much tafe you need to attend to get a normal job that cound be taught on siye
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Post by Senexx on Jul 7, 2016 9:23:52 GMT
That has been my estimation too, they keep putting more and more qualifications in the way before you can work. I see this as a deliberate step to prevent you from working due to the sheer financial cost of these qualifications.
Eg. once upon a time RSA was for lifetime (as were many other tickets) now every 5 years.
That's fine if you are lucky enough to already work in the industry but is quite harsh if you are trying to break into the industry (any industry).
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Post by timothymarkjones on Jul 25, 2016 8:57:26 GMT
That has been my estimation too, they keep putting more and more qualifications in the way before you can work. I see this as a deliberate step to prevent you from working due to the sheer financial cost of these qualifications. Eg. once upon a time RSA was for lifetime (as were many other tickets) now every 5 years. That's fine if you are lucky enough to already work in the industry but is quite harsh if you are trying to break into the industry (any industry). Absolutely agree. We are drowning in puerile sophistries. Everybody pretends to not being just a naked ape. Am tiring of irrelevant arguments. We are just people on a landmass. I'm sure that plain speaking would be a political winner. |
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